"The eagle is solar and a symbol of all sky; the meridian sun, the spiritual principle, ascension, inspiration, release from bondage, victory, pride, dignity, contemplation, royalty, authority, strength, height, the element of air, warriors, courage, keen vision, tenacity, fearlessness, the symbol and agent of apotheosis after death (divine transformation). Reckoned to be able to fly up to the sun, gaze unwaveringly upon it and to identify with it. This looking at the sun without blinking is symbolic of Christ gazing on the glory of god. The soaring eagle is the liberated spiritual part of the prima materia in alchemy. An attribute of Jupiter and as his lightening-bearer clutches Jupiter’s thunderbolts in his talons. In all cultures the eagle is always representative of the highest gods and greatest heroes. The eagle is also the collective symbol of the father and all father figures. As with all symbols, the eagle has its dark, malign and sinister aspect, an exaggeration of its qualities, the perversion of its strength and its inordinate self-exaltation. In dreams and visions, the eagle like the lion embodies lofty thoughts and its significance is almost always positive. Applied to Christian tradition in art the eagle symbolizes the sudden impulse and devouring spiritual passion."
Now, the pictures. Starting with the American eagle, ah yes it symbolises America's freedom and independence, doesn't it?
(artwork; see here)
Sumerian stone tablet - 'winged disc'
Pretty self explanatory. This page says the Egyptian symbol was inspired by solar eclipses. Is it all based on sun worship?
Egyptian Horus sun symbol (replica; see here)
Roman Empire eagle-sun symbol
Ancient Iranian royal standard depicting eagle-sun symbolism (see here for more info)
Double headed eagle of the 33rd degree of Freemasonry; 'Ordo ab Chao' means 'Order out of Chaos', plainly referring to how populations can be manipulated via the Hegelian Dialectic.
Great Seal of the USA; 'E Pluribus Unum' means 'Out of Many, One'. You can interpret that however you wish.
Nazi winged disc
Hitler poster (note the soaring bird and sun in the background)
Obama campaign sticker
Obama seal
Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention Pokemon...Also see the winged disc symbolism in car company logos here
(But why the continuity of symbolism?)
Jordan Maxwell says 'it's the sun, stupid':
There are many different explanations offered as to the origin and meaning of the symbols; I'd have to say sun worship seems to me to be the likeliest explanation. But nonetheless, there are common themes in religious and political symbols through the ages...must be a coincidence, hmm?
And why, with all this symbolism stuff, is it obvious once someone points it out? What kind of subliminal effect may this symbolism have, if any? And what does it represent?
More occult symbolism for you to investigate: All-Seeing Eye, Pyramid, Fasces, Pentagram, Hexagram, Horns, Light Bearer, Obelisk, Owl, Serpent. Just have fun with a search engine and those categories, should keep you busy!
*Banging Forehead on Table in Frustration*
ReplyDeleteThe website you reference is a website of Catholic, not Christian, art!
(And rather perverted, at that.)
BTW, I prefer Ben Franklin's suggestion of the turkey as our national bird, as the bald eagle is little more than a scavenger and "of bad moral character".
I wasn't taking a cheap shot at Christianity. (And many Catholics would consider Catholicism to be Christian, hehe)
ReplyDeleteIt seems the same symbolism, for better or worse (the eagle may represent out-of-body experiences or the soul after death) permeates many different cultures and traditions.
I mean, does this imply the same people have been running things throughout recorded human history? Even back before Babylon? Who were the ancient 'Gods' or 'Nephilim', really?
It is no surprise that the Sun runs through symbolism relating to strength and spirituality. Nothing is more important to us than our local star. Sunlight is at the core of the food chain and we are solar powered beings made of recycled stardust. The Sun is the light of our world and the light of life. Everybody once saw it as a divine being and it was the Church and not science that declared this to be primitive and ignorant.
ReplyDeleteGregory Sams, author of Sun of gOd
Well, that is certainly what most religions are based on...
ReplyDeleteI didn't say you were taking a cheapshot, but using Catholicism and Christianity interchangeably is like saying agnostics and vampires are the same thing.
ReplyDeleteIt's unfair and rather defeating to actual Christians like me to be lumped in with idolaters.
I understand what you're saying, but Catholics consider themselves to be Christian, so take it up with them...
ReplyDelete(Just seems to me to be more proof that there is no 'true' doctrine and all others are not 'false', and that religion is merely a tool of division and mind control, but what do I know)
Have you read the entire book of Romans in the King James Version of the Bible?
ReplyDeleteI would strongly suggest it.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rom&c=1&v=1&t=KJV
OK, just read it :)
ReplyDelete"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men"
The biggest issue I have with the conventional concept of 'God' is the idea of judgement, the concept of God as an authority figure (which to me is the fingerprint of 'social engineer' involvement in writing the story) and eternal Hell.
ETERNAL Hell!!!!
Let me ask you, if the God of the Bible is all-loving, where does burning foreverandever come into the equation? No-one deserves that, right?
Also, do the crimes attributed to this God, as described in the Bible, amount to blasphemy by Christians' own rules?
http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
Finally, a couple more issues that are just my personal opinion.
1. God is infinite, so does that not mean that everything is part of God and nothing exists that is 'not God'? That is what infinity means.
2. Christians generally consider the sign of a good person to be that they are God-fearing. Well we all know that fear is the basis of government control of society, especially in cult-like dictatorial regimes. Is Christianity not fitting the definition of 'cult' here? And is it not therefore obtrusive to the aim of freedom?
Did you read Romans 1:23, where it speaks of the fools who changed the incorruptible glory of God into corrupt images of birds and other things?
ReplyDeleteNoteworthy, isn't it, especially since that is what this post is about. Or did you read that far into the first chapter?
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ~Romans 6:23
Everyone on earth is a sinner, but instead of instantly sending us to our punishment, He sends His sinless Son to die in our place so that we don't have to suffer.
This is your definition of blasphemy?
"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?" ~Romans 9:20
Replying to your issues of personal opinion:
1) Infinite is not defined as "being everything", but as "immeasurable". God created all things, and is therefore necessarily a separate entity from His finite creation.
2) If you had truly read the entire book of Romans, not just half of the first chapter, you would have read that Christianity requires a fear of the Lord, not a fear of men who falsely claim to be His servants.
The only thing between a Christian and God is Jesus Christ, the Son of God - not an advantaging priest or pope, such as is found in a cult.
Fear of the Lord, not of men.
Working my way through Romans ATM.
ReplyDeleteI appreciate our discussion here :)
Now if I was a supreme being, I wouldn't want people to fear me. And I'd think it a little odd that people were always worshipping me. It might freak me out a little bit.
That's kind of what I'm getting at. Also I certainly would not fry the people who didn't follow my rules for all eternity.
And there are some pretty damnatory incidents where 'God' commits the most outrageous atrocities.
Are you sure the God of the Bible is a 'good guy' so to speak? Because if any of the alleged murderous 'acts of God' described are true...this God is a tyrant as bad as any human tyrant.
Yes, I read 1:23. Sorry I only read the page you first linked me to but am now reading the rest of the book.
ReplyDeleteI am familiar with much of the NT since I do own one myself and did actually read and pray with it for a few years.
But I came to the conclusion that at most the text is an allegory, probably written by the same kind of social planners that occupy secret societies today.
Remember, if it's for the masses it's probably BS - that's the general rule today, I don't think it would be any different back then.
How many people have been killed based on this book. Whether you believe that is the intended message of the bok or not.
Whether or not I believe the Bible justifies the killing of many, the killing was based on the Bible?
ReplyDeleteHow so?
The wretched dastards who burned at the stake interpreters of the scriptures were acting on God's Word?
Obama taught Constitutional law at the University of Chicago, and recently signed the healthcare bill. Is the healthcare bill therefore based on the U.S. Constitution? No, it defies it!
Is the Constitution a suggestion or an allegory? No, it is the law, and those who defy it cannot be said to be within the law.
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." ~Matthew 7:23 (Emphasis added.)
Now, about God being a "murderous tyrant". I know of no example of any innocent person being sent to Hell by God; if you know of such a case, please tell me.
"Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,"
~Romans 9:21-23
Even a guilty person being sent to Hell by God. Burning for all eternity? Just a little unfair if you ask me. Certainly not the indicator of a benevolent being.
ReplyDeleteMy favourite, I think, from that evilbible page, is Deuteronomy 13:12-18
http://nlt.scripturetext.com/deuteronomy/13.htm
“When you begin living in the towns the Lord your God is giving you, you may hear 13that scoundrels among you are leading their fellow citizens astray by saying, ‘Let us go worship other gods’—gods you have not known before. 14In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find that the report is true and such a detestable act has been committed among you, 15you must attack that town and completely destroyb all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. 16Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the open square and burn it. Burn the entire town as a burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. 17Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the Lord will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a large nation, just as he swore to your ancestors.
18“The Lord your God will be merciful only if you listen to his voice and keep all his commands that I am giving you today, doing what pleases him.
Displaying the characteristics of a tyrant, would you not say? 'He' would be right at home in one of those tribal African dictatorships today. The LORD is pleased to see genocide wrought against those who do not believe. That to me is a despicable writing clearly made up by some wannabe Conqueror, but again, what do I know.
It could not be a wannabe conqueror who wrote it, because that commandment is only applicable to a city that is already part of Israel, and that has broken the law and worshiped other gods.
ReplyDeleteNow, why is that so important to God that He would command the death of them that broke the law?
He had a plan from the beginning to have a people to Himself that was "peculiar" to the rest of the world; this people (Israel) must be absolutely godly in all laws and mannerisms, so that it is an example to the rest of the world. It wouldn't be such a good example if it was worshiping every false god it thought of, would it?
Now, today, because God sent His only Son to die in our place, that law is inapplicable. The old law was a law of death, because sin is death.
Romans 7:5-25 explains this better than I can, and in much deeper detail.
Also, that train of thought in chapter 7 goes on into chapter 8.
ReplyDelete(I hate to post successive comments, sorry.)
"He had a plan from the beginning to have a people to Himself that was "peculiar" to the rest of the world; this people (Israel) must be absolutely godly in all laws and mannerisms, so that it is an example to the rest of the world. It wouldn't be such a good example if it was worshiping every false god it thought of, would it? "
ReplyDeleteWell, I guess not. What would make a good example however, is if they were so *godly* that they massacred people whose beliefs were different.
And as for 'worshipping every false god thought of', well I've got one more to add to that list...and we haven't even covered the (no historical basis) genocide of the Egyptian firstborn sons yet...