Politically Confused: Iran

Pravda.ru: Iran does not need America's carrots and is not afraid of its sticks

"Obama said that he wanted bigger carrots and bigger sticks not to let Iran build a nuclear weapon. The United States will therefore use tougher sanctions against the nation to change Iran’s behavior, he added."

Seems the bully has picked on the wrong Middle Eastern Islamic Republic! (And I guess that means the White House won't be getting Ahmadinejad's lunch money either.)

(Images: A little bit of propaganda. Above, in Tehran, 'Down with USA and Israel'. Below, (well it's actually an anti-McCain poster) one of McCain's less tactful PR moments, captured for posterity.)

Iraq was starved and bombed for ten years prior to its invasion. The sanctions had the worst effect - they were designed to starve the people into rebellion against Saddam, but only resulted in famine in what was one of the Arabic world's richest regions. Then the government co-operated with UN weapons inspection programs, but what good did that do? They wound up getting invaded anyway.

Whether the removal of Saddam was morally correct, pragmatically correct, or within the jurisdiction of the Coalition, is a whole other thing. But the precedent has been set: 'co-operating' with the powers that be is seen as something that will be taken advantage of, rather than something that can be productive.

Or in short, the war in Iraq has given Iran good reason not to trust the US.

What do you think?

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=83397&sectionid=351020104

'an attitude towards engagement [with Iran] that might bear fruit'.

Call me crazy, but doesn't that sound like 'an attitude towards military engagement that might bear profit'? Hopefully, I have read a bit too much between the lines, and they are referring to diplomatic engagement.

(Images: Above, a photoshop satire of Fox's reporting of a future nuclear war on Iran - I presume the author is suggseting Fox would mistranslate Ahmadinejad? Below, graffiti putting it all into perspective. "Remember, it is just as scared of you as you are of it".)

Iran is probably not pursuing nuclear weapons at this time. Or at least, the IAEA doesn't acknowledge any proof of such activity (ie non-civilian nuclear development).

But really, what have you got to fear if Iran does develop muclear weapons? 'Oh no, the TERRORISTS are coming!!!'

Give me a break. This mythical Al-Qaeda have ties to, conveniently, just about every regime that will not comply to the Western-globalist agenda. Coincidence? Nope. In fact, if YOU start saying that war for oil is wrong, and Israel commits genocide, soon enough 'clear evidence' will emerge linking you to Al-Qaeda.

Ok, so it isn't that extreme, but 'Al-Qaeda' appears to be everywhere today - Iraq, Iran, Syria, Sharia councils, Local mosques, Under your bed. Everywhere. Be afraid, be very afraid. And be ready to sacrifice liberty, otherwise the terrorists will win...

More to the point, what if Iran does develop nuclear weapons? Will they use them against Israel or the West? -inhales- NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. Why? Because nobody would be that stupid. Even Kim-Jong Il, the 'dear leader' of North Korea, has never used his nuclear weapons (you know, if he's still alive).

And to those who may say, "But, Iranians are fanatical extremists!" I would say, "The only fanatics are the ordinary fools who get tricked into being suicide weapons by the politicians, who are much more aware and devious than to destroy their own country and themselves by starting nuclear war".

In fact, the only country to ever have used nuclear weapons in a war was the US. I think it's important to remember that. (But let's be fair, the full effects of nuclear weapons were not at the time known, which lifts some of the moral burden I guess)

Some people have horrendously short memories. All of this baseless fear-mongering is just like the run-up to Iraq. I remember '45 Minutes', and I was 11 at the time ffs!

I would say the best thing for Iran is to develop nukes ASAP before we con ourselves into another mindless elite-manufactured 'regime change'. Then again, if they do (or even if they get close) there might be a nuclear 'false flag' op blamed on them. Aah, the possibilities...

Anyways, time to consider. Is authority the truth? Will we all be a sucker for the next mad rush to war by ruthless elitist powers? Hopefully not, mainly because the American military is at full extent already in the Middle East. But if by some fluke those behind Obama get the draft reinstated over there, who knows?

P-C