13 May 2011

UPDATE: Due to this BS thing where I can do everything with this blog except publish a post, I have moved home to Wordpress: http://ncnblogger.wordpress.com/ (this will remain as an archive and be damn sure I will still read all your wonderful blogs as ever). Those who have linked me please update the link. Thanks all. Looking forward to continued blogging in the future.

2 May

Today's news is that Osama is dead. Well it's sort of 10 year old news, but there you go. Supposedly one of the very mind controlled special forces shot him in the head, although given the notorious nature of the invading forces' willingness to kill someone then play dress up afterwards, who knows it may have been a woman who they drew a beard on with marker pen. Photo looks 'shopped but what do I know. Then again corpses just like your TV dinner keep very well in the freezer...lol...


Anyway I'm off to get kidney dialysis using only sand and donkey piss while being hunted by all the satellites and spy planes that a trillion dollar military budget can buy, for ten years. Ciao

PS does this mean the war on terror is over now and 'we' can come home and dismantle the police state and not have RFID passports and iris scans and creepy wiretaps anymore? (Comptroller says no)

Friday, 22 January 2010

Satanic Establishment?

It doesn't matter if you are an Atheist, a New Ager, a Christian, whatever; surely we can agree that having people who are in positions of power, and who are also involved with Satanism, can't be good.

Now of course, I do not take at face value everything in the below links I have dug up today. But there's enough decent information out there on the web about connections between today's establishment and Satanism, such that these alleged ties warrant attention for all people. Remember, even if you're an atheist who thinks this is all fictional, Satanists are known to perform ritual murders for example - the issue transcends religion. I'm not offended by anyone's beliefs, the key point is when beliefs become actions. And hardcore Satanists still will not settle for mock human sacrifices, they want the real thing.

First of all, the superficial. Here's a few pictures following the theme set by General Tommy Lee Franks above...
George Bush satanic hand sign (loadsa pics of him throwing the horns)
Barack Obama:
Bill Clinton satanic hand sign
Nicolas Sarkozy satanic hand sign

Angela Merkel seemingly prefers this Masonic handsign just like Jay-Z:

But please, be rational about this hand sign business. Are you to tell me they all have itchy fingers? How else could this be explained? Perhaps it's a coincidence...but then you add in the Bohemian Grove and things get a little more real...

Love For Life - Australian Satanism (a long document written by a now-deceased Satanist, released after his death. Pretty damning stuff.)

Vigilant Citizen - Lil Wayne's "On Fire": A Video About Occult Initiation (be sure to look up some of the other popular artists on that site whose Satanic material is exposed such as Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Beyonce, and Jay-Z...)

Henry Makow - Occult Power Running Canadian Parliament? (again, this is a maybe, all depends on interpretation I suppose)

Is the 'Christian' Alpha Course actually Satanic? See this book here. I'm not reading the whole thing, maybe some other time, but the section from p.175 onwards is interesting, detailing how the Alpha Course and Rick Warren are Blasphemous, Pagan and Occult (I'm not personally horrified by this, but I see how a Christian would be, very much so).

Skull and Bones execution robes for sale on ebay, and slightly homosuggestive Masonic items in an old catalogue. Yes, this is a most entertaining thread. A must read.

Are Occultism and Satanism the same thing?

This is one of those controversies that can offend people easily. Christians are likely to say that all occultism and paganistic practices are tricks of the Devil, and thus everything 'spiritual' that isn't 'Judeo-Christian', to use the popular Christian-Zionist phrase, is basically Satanism in disguise.

Others however assert that some old pagan traditions are harmless (depending of course on what you're doing - I doubt many modern pagans like the idea of a Wicker Man!) For example, modern Wiccans practice witchcraft but believe it is wrong to do harm. New Age ideas mesh with what one might call 'conspiracy theories' to give rise to the belief that the elites are hiding valuable secrets from us, whether spiritual, historical or technological - secrets which are taught in their mystery schools, camouflaged by Occultism and 'Black Magick'. To an extent I endorse this view...'the very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society' as JFK said.

Another argument is that many Christian traditions are in fact Pagan. Christmas/Solstice celebration, Easter/Fertility celebration (that's what the Easter Bunny symbolises, folks), for instance. Some go much further and assert that Christianity itself is pagan, citing paralells between Christ, His disciples and resurrection story, with ideas of the Sun (Son), the Zodiac (disciples), the constellation Crux (the cross) and the Winter Solstice (died for three days and rose again, like the Sun's movements around December 21st). But that is another heated debate for another day!

In my humble opinion, due to the distinct differences in belief structure shown, all occultism surely cannot be treated as being one with satanism. Perhaps a fitting description would be that all satanists are occult, but only some occultists are satanic.

So, are there Satanists in our midst? Of course. Most are ordinary people and honestly it's none of my business what freaky religious practices they are involved in, as long as they're not harming others (which some may say is a naive expectation for me to have of Satanists). But what about our ruling class? Well, they have shown themselves to be fond of these beliefs and practices for one reason or another. And they run whole nations. Take from it what you will.

Related - see my post on Britain's war dead. Note the symbolism permeating many war memorials, because it represents what the establishment really thinks of the troops it orders to war.


scunnert said...


Magistra_Y said...

Um...I can disagree. Satanism demands personal responsibility instead of blaming the devil and begging to god. Satanism accepts the reality of the world that is, not indulging in what should be.
The Satanic Bible demonstrates a religion of integrity and brutal truth. The Church of Satan demands total legality amongst it's ranks and throws out those who break the laws of man.These ARE exactly the people we need in government and they are exactly the people who wouldn't touch that job with a ten foot pole. You did not name a single Satanist---just Christians following the hypocrisy of their faith.

Magistra_Y said...

You have to buy all that biblical malarkey to be a devil worshiper, and that belief makes you a Christian.

Satanism is a modern religion founded in 1966 that merges atheism with the human need for ritual, dogma, and fellowship. Satan is merely an archetype, a metaphor. No Satanist would sacrifice because there is no one to sacrifice to. You need to go to bed and stop watching silly movies late at night.


Son3 said...

OK, I rarely believe any of these sorts of things, but the second photo of Obama is the most clear-cut example of an El Diablo sign I've ever seen in actual use.

By the way, Magistra_Y, "buying biblical malarky" while worshiping the devil doesn't make one a Christian: "Ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils." 1 Corinthians 10:21

Also, James 2:19

jackspicerlove said...

Personally, I don't care whether or not people in our current establishment are Satanist/Devil Worshipers (though I doubt anyone important is). Those religions are not evil, like the media makes it out to be. Most of the cases of "Satanic Abuse Rituals" you here about are the results of what's known as the "Satanic Panic," which basically is the same thing as the Salem Witch Hunts or the Red Scare. Sure, there are always a few bad apples in the bunch, but the majority of those religions condemn breaking the law. I suggest you check out these sites: http://theisticsatanism.com/index.html http://theisticsatanism.com/geifodd/sitemap.html and http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html

Son3 said...

BTW, all of the ones I've ever seen of Bush are called "Hook 'em Horns", and it's a Texan football thing.

Similar, but not identical to El Diablo.

I don't know, maybe he's hiding behind the football thing while the Secret Service mutilates cats at his signal.

AdamS said...

Nice video scunnert.

AdamS said...

To the Satanists: I'm not bothered by someone's beliefs but by actions. The criminal actions of world leaders and the 'hidden hand' if you will that keeps these leaders in line, is all that matters (including things like human sacrifices allegedly carried out by secret societies). And one thing they seem to have in common is affiliation with Satanism or as you say Christian Heresy.

If to you Satanism demands personal responsibility, and abhors sacrifices, then who am I to judge...

Maybe Satanism needs different denominations...lol

PS there will never be a witch hunt for satanists. Unless, like the original witch hunts, it is carried out by the State for its own benefit. In which case that would be evil and ought to be opposed.

AdamS said...

Son3, the other side of the debate over Bush's horn throwing is that people were asking why he did it and the story about football was made up to cover for him.

Let us suppose Bush was referring to the Diablos.

Cheney? (see the video in the link scunnert posted)

Maybe they all like Texas football...?

AdamS said...

'the diablos' lol er I think I meant either El Diablo or Texan football. haha

Magistra_Y said...

Calling someone the devil (or Hitler, or Charlie Manson) is to reject thought and study and go into Lemming mode and accept without question. It is dangerous. It is also what genuine Satanists count on in order to manipulate the human herd. We know our name is merely metaphorical, but we likewise know that those who believe all the gaga about Satanists are the very people we want no part of. It is an excellent culling mechanism for potential friends, mates, members, and others.
Our founder, Anton LaVey said that the truth never set anyone free, only doubt can.
Doubt demands study.
So, if we look at our leaders and apply archetypes instead of seeing them as individuals, we are destined to be fooled.
FYI-and I apologize for taking up so much space, but it is actually my job as a Magistra in the Church of Satan to point these things out: Prior to 1966, in all of human history, there was never a codified, recognized, religion that the adherents identified as Satanism. Never. Ever. Therefore the Church of Satan refuses to recognize all others who claim Satanism as a religious moniker--particularly the theistics, spiritualists. and others who embrace a Christian devil as a literal entity. Being on your knees to the devil is every inch as weak and repugnant as being on your knees before God.

chasepoke said...

To AdamS (from jackspicerlove [had to sign in with a different account, sorry]) :

There ARE different denominations of Satanism. None of them support criminal activity.

Also, there already WAS a witch hunt for Satanists. Back in the 80's. It is now referred to as the Satanic Panic. Of course, no one was burned at the stake, but many people were falsely tried (in a legal court) for what was called: Satanic Ritual Abuse. As far as I know, out of the many, many cases, only one man was ever found guilty of anything. The Satanic Panic is actually a very interesting subject, I think it might be on Wikpedia, if you or anyone else wants to check it out.

Oh, and since it is always unclear on the internet, I'm not trying to be spiteful with this comment or anything, I just enjoy setting the facts straight. As always, don't take my word for it. Research it for yourself and I think you'll reach the same conclusion I did.

AdamS said...

So all you Satanists are really Atheists fooling around? lol

There we go then,
Satanists|Devil worshippers.

Fear is what controls people. So I'm not surprised there was some kind of mass hysteria related to Satanism. And I'm even less surprised that the hysteria was as usual directed at anyone but the bastards who deserve it.

chasepoke said...

Though, whatever Satanists really believe, I certainly don't believe that the above "evidence" has any substance. I'm not sure why the former presidents and the current president are flashing horns, but I doubt it has to do with Satanism. That horn sign is rather popular. People flash them for many different reasons, like at metal concerts or football games.

As for Angela Merkel, it looks like that is just the way she holds her hands when she speaks. My guess is that she probably has no knowledge of the Masonic religion.

However, it is pretty hilarious to imagine our current and former politicians at a Satanic Ritual. XD

AdamS said...

Bohemian Grove. Among former Grove attendees are Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, I believe both Bushes, Bill Clinton...

Heard the Nixon tape where he calls BG 'the most faggy goddamned thing you could imagine'?


I don't know how seriously they take their occultism at the Grove or elsewhere - but it would make sense to groom politicians for office by ensuring they have been 'compromised' as much as possible, so that they may be more easily manipulated once elected...

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