13 May 2011

UPDATE: Due to this BS thing where I can do everything with this blog except publish a post, I have moved home to Wordpress: http://ncnblogger.wordpress.com/ (this will remain as an archive and be damn sure I will still read all your wonderful blogs as ever). Those who have linked me please update the link. Thanks all. Looking forward to continued blogging in the future.

2 May

Today's news is that Osama is dead. Well it's sort of 10 year old news, but there you go. Supposedly one of the very mind controlled special forces shot him in the head, although given the notorious nature of the invading forces' willingness to kill someone then play dress up afterwards, who knows it may have been a woman who they drew a beard on with marker pen. Photo looks 'shopped but what do I know. Then again corpses just like your TV dinner keep very well in the freezer...lol...


Anyway I'm off to get kidney dialysis using only sand and donkey piss while being hunted by all the satellites and spy planes that a trillion dollar military budget can buy, for ten years. Ciao

PS does this mean the war on terror is over now and 'we' can come home and dismantle the police state and not have RFID passports and iris scans and creepy wiretaps anymore? (Comptroller says no)

Sunday, 18 April 2010

Crucified Gods in History

'Before Christ'
Dionysus (Greek/Roman)

Ixion (Greek)

Quetzalcoatl (Aztec)

Isis (Egyptian)

Egyptian Ankh symbol, with a certain 'saviour' on the right.

See more:
Cruciforms/Gods on Crosses
How many ancient religions had saviors dying on a cross?

Linguistic paralells:
Shu (as in Yeshua)
Hesus (like...er...Jesus/Iesous)

The stories are similar, not because one was necessarily stolen from another, but because they are all based on personified astrotheology, and thus share common solar, lunar, planetary and stellar themes. This does not mean none of the figures are based to some extent on real people, just that we have been severely misled by religious institutions expecting us to interpret their stories literally when often nought but metaphor is written. Solar religion is neither inherently sinister nor good; it is what it is. Manipulating solar stories and history so that people are force fed what are supposedly literal factual accounts, that is the real crime.

This is how mad it has become - we fight over religous differences when they more often than not share the same sources: 1. The sky, 2. Psychedelic substances (look into it if you don't believe me), 3. Paranormal phenomena, and 4. Human desire to control others' minds. I am not an atheist, let alone a materialist; I would suggest idealism and perhaps pantheism are better explanations of our world anyway. That doesn't mean the Bible should be ignored; it is a fascinating numerological document, for example. More on that to come, definitely.


Son3 said...

I couldn't find anything in mythology about Dionysus being crucified, or dead at all, for that matter, but I did find that Ixion was burned to death, not crucified, and the "cross" in that emblem is the pagan sign for the sun, not a crucifix.

Quetzalcoatl is an Aztec god, and crucifixion as a sacrifice is foreign to Mexican Indians, as they preferred drainage of blood via removal of the heart. Quetzalcoatl did not die in their mythology, and they believed he would appear to them in the form of a white man with a beard. White skin and facial hair are unknown to Aztecs, so it was quite a coincidence when the bearded Spaniard Cortez came to their country bearing the Catholic symbol of conquest, the crucifix.

They ceremoniously brought him a cup of blood, which they figured he would accept as a godly offering, but it instead disgusted Cortez, so he had them killed.

So, out all the "gods that were crucified", I couldn't verify one of them.

BTW, correction of the "Religion 7" page to which you linked:

Hesus was a Gallic/Druid god which was never said to have been killed, and Krishna was never said to be crucified.

AdamS said...

Well yes, none of them were crucified, because none of them are real people. That's kind of what I'm saying...just that the manipulators behind the Roman Empire were much cleverer than their predecessors, and weaved a heart-wrenching tale of sacrifice, miracles and morality.

If someone did exist like Yeshua in reality, I wager that more historians would have written about it, firstly. Much of the purported evidence for a hisorical Jesus seems fabricated by apologists long after Christianity began.

Also, other more spiritually empowering doctrines like gnosticism were driven underground, they don't suit the governors' agenda. I could be wrong here, but I think the term 'Christ' was first used by gnostics to refer to enlightenment, and did not initially apply to an individual?

Son3 said...

No, that's not what you're saying.

The title of the post is 'Crucified Gods in History', and then you have an illustrated list of gods who haven't been crucified. That doesn't make sense.

How and why would historians at the time record the exploits of one man in the furthest reaches of the Roman Empire, who was killed for disrupting the Jewish religion?

And besides, if the manipulators of the Roman Empire were much cleverer than their predecessors, and weaved a heart-wrenching tale of sacrifice, miracles and morality, why wouldn't their historians record it? If it was all a big hoax on the Roman's part, you'd think they'd make the most of it at the time.

And no, I'm not aware of 'Christ' being a gnostic term.

AdamS said...

Son, see:


"It needs to be emphasized that the claim is not that Horus was a human being thrown to the ground and nailed to a piece of wood. In CIE, I discuss the etymology of the word "crucify," which comes from the Latin crucifigere, composed of cruci/crux and affigere/figere, meaning "cross" and "to fix/affix," respectively. Crucifigere and its English derivation "to crucify" mean "to fix to a cross," but not necessarily to throw down and nail to a piece of wood. What we are interested in, then, is whether or not pre-Christian gods and goddesses were depicted as fixed to a cross or in cruciform, appearing as a crucifix."

The emphasis here is the *depiction* of gods in crucified form, as shown above, which desinates the sun, or perhaps also enlightenment, which itself is obviously related symbolically to the sun.

The primary religion present in what we call BC Roman times, was Mithraism, which has a few paralells itself:


The persecution of Christians only lasted so long until Constantine introduced Christianity for his own reasons. Then the persecution of those heathen ungodly pagans began, until nothing ostensible was left of what had existed before. Since then the agenda has been very much to promote the Christian doctrine and eradicate anything else...it always strikes me as odd that Christians (not you) seem to think they are the ones being persecuted, when it is their doctrine that has stalked the minds of men for centuries, the original Orwellian Big Brother who knows everything you say and do and will strike you down and fry you forever if you deviate from the scriptures.

Son3 said...

Hmm, I don't remember persecution being a Christian doctrine...

Chapter and verse on that?

Matthew 5:43-44

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